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LONDON. Michaelmas term lately over, and the Lord Chancellor sitting in Lincoln's Inn Hall. Implacable November weather. As much mud in the streets, as if the waters had but newly retired from the face of the earth, and it would not be wonderful to meet a Megalosaurus, forty feet long or so, waddling like an elephantine lizard up Holborn Hill. Smoke lowering down from chimney-pots, making a soft black drizzle with flakes of soot in it as big as full-grown snowflakes - gone into mourning, one might imagine, for the death of the sun. Dogs, undistinguishable in mire. Horses, scarcely better; splashed to their very blinkers. Foot passengers, jostling one another's umbrellas, in a general infection of ill-temper, and losing their foot hold at street-corners, where tens of thousands of other foot passengers have been slipping and sliding since the day broke (if this day ever broke), adding new deposits to the crust upon crust of mud, sticking at those points tenaciously to the pavement, and accumulating at compound interest.

Are you able to visualize what is happening in this passage?

This is from Bleak House by Charles Dickens, if you are curious.

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[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 19 points 10 hours ago (12 children)
[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago (11 children)

That last link is a study, where researchers provided English undergrads with that passage, and asked them to think aloud while reading it. They had access to dictionaries and could look up words.

Here are the results:

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Do you have a link to the study?

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah - it’s what’s linked at the end of the OP

It is fascinating and scary. The “whole literacy” experiment the US did - where we ignored decades of research on how to teach children to read while filling the pockets of educational consultants - seems to have created a generation of near illiterate adults.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I would want to repeat that study with novels written in the past 25 years before concluding too much. Yes, the participants had access to a dictionary, but I imagine that needing to decipher certain parts, such as foreign cultural references and familiar words with unexpected meanings, interferes with the brain's usual functions for turning words into images in the mind's eye. And this even ignores the folks wtih aphantasia like me.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

There’s a discussion of the history context too:

These were college students who were seeking English majors. People who are going to go on to teach Dickens - and hopefully have read Great Expectations or Tale of Two Cities at some point in high school.

[–] jbrains@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Thanks for that. Indeed, that makes me less confident in their suitability to teach those subjects, but I worry about a sensational conclusion about their general literacy.

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